Because of the murder of George Floyd and the protests in America right now, we're taking a break from our normal format

Disclaimer: This is an awkward topic to discuss, but it needs to be discussed. We do not claim to be experts, but we believe that as privileged white men, it's our responsibility to try to learn, challenge ourselves, and evolve. This conversation is a part of our attempt to do so.

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